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Ex RAF 109 Seres 3 35-AJ-20 MISSING!

Postby Bombhead365 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:39 pm

My project series 3 landy 35-AJ-20, set for restoration and donation to The Buccaneer Aviaton Group based at Bruntingthorpe, has been stolen/removed from its last known location at the Yorkshire Air Museum.

It was being stored there until my return from Afghanistan. After then I could restore it back to fully operational use and return it to working alongside RAF aircraft of its own era as it did back in it hay day.

Sadly some chump has either stolen it or the museum has sold it on or scrapped it (I wouldn't put it past the place).

Either way, the landy I legally own and have all the documents stored in my house to has been removed in one way shape or form from where I left it.

If anyone has any knowledge about it please contact me.

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Postby mkeating » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:15 am

I assume you have got incontact with police and at least able to claim something back from insurance.
In the meantime Give us as much detail as you can
civvy reg and military (if known)
how was it fitted out Radios etc serial numbers
Colour Sand Green / black any photo's As wagons are painted to the owners eye.
Engine serial number
Chassis number
Evern types of tyres
It all helps
Sure still a number of the type around.
BUT as you well know some very keen Eyes around.
Is their a reward for finder or prosecution of offender.
I assume the place has CCTV.
Don't give up on it
Just help us to help you

Take it easy out there

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Postby nickffr » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:20 am

All good points Martin

Is Elvington not surrounded by a fence and gates

What a sad loss

Hope it gets spotted or sorted one way or another soon


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Postby Bombhead365 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:06 pm

I believe the muse, may have had something to do with it. So security and CCTV nd fences etc wouldn't really have mattered.

It is a series 3 hard top with side windows.

Military reg is 35-AJ-20
Civilian reg is XNT 309S

It's currently painted olive green with a yellow stripe around its midriff. It also has the words "aircraft engineering" in white vinyl on both sides of the hard top below the side windows.

Inside it has no fittings I.e. for radios etc. no bench seats.

The roof is painted white inside. One of the roof sides is painted internally white, whilst the other is blue.

The footwells have worn to silver and the can has been painted in a bronze green in some part of its life.

The passenger seat back has worn patches and a big tear in it.

It has 72497 miles on the clock

It also has a spot lamp fitted to the passenger wing mirror

It also has a "need for speed" sticker on the rear window applied by the previous owner.

Will out up pictures shortly.
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Postby mkeating » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:40 pm

I assume you have notified the police. Mus may claim that they have nothing to do with it, but they are in a postion to assist police with enquires, not withstanding that that your wagon was parked at own risk.

Assume the wagon was insured.
How did it come to your attention?
Might be the best place to start enquires.

Bit late now
Always good to have some form of tracking device in the wagon.

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Postby Bombhead365 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:07 pm

http://forum.emlra.org/viewtopic.php?t=9298

Here is a link to a load of pictures of it.

Sadly due to it being before the restoration began it was unrealistic to fit a fancy tracker in it.
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Postby mkeating » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:22 pm

Thanks Gives the guys something to work on.
Tracking :?:

And old pay as u go Mobile tucked away somewhere will do the trick.
just keep it 'active' .

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Postby Adie4666 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:35 pm

Really sorry to hear about this, i have spread the word out to my Land Rover friends that scour the likes of Ebay daily, they have helped loacte a stolen Defender last year. fingers crossed for you that you get her back :(
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Postby Bombhead365 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:33 pm

I have just found a little lead.

One of my mates saw it being trailered away by a John jenkinsons land rover.

They thought I had gotten someone to collect it for me. Being a legitimate company and all. (at least I'm assuming it's a legitimate company)

Time will tell.
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Postby Bombhead365 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:09 pm

An update.

Have spoken to the museum director. He has told me that he has scrapped the landy. He believes he is well within his rights to do so.

He didn't listen to m request for an explanation, told me I was talking a old of rubbish when I told him what he did was illegal nd then hung up the phone.

For the record the museum I kept it t was The Yorkshire Air Museum at Elvington near York.
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Postby cv126a » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:34 pm

The tabloids would have a field day with that one.
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Postby mikeffr » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:02 pm

Bombhead365 wrote:An update.

Have spoken to the museum director. He has told me that he has scrapped the landy. He believes he is well within his rights to do so.

He didn't listen to m request for an explanation, told me I was talking a old of rubbish when I told him what he did was illegal nd then hung up the phone.

For the record the museum I kept it t was The Yorkshire Air Museum at Elvington near York.


I assume you had permission to leave it there.
As such they should have given you the opportunity to remove it.

So now you are the registered keeper of a vehicle that you have declared SORN but has been scrapped, which you actually have no proof of its destruction.

By all accounts a scrap metal dealer cannot accept a vehicle without the V5 if they do you should get a certificate of destruction.

From my understanding Local Authorities cannot remove or scrap vehicles without contacting the registered keeper.

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Postby 64EK26 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:16 pm

Hi

Very sorry to hear that its gone for good, not allowed to print what I think of the museum director

You should be able to claim compensation, pop into the Citizens Advice Bureau, they should be able to help you. Let us all know how you get on

It is now on my places of not to visit.

Richard

Just a thought, I didn't think that you were legally allowed to scrap vehicle without informing the DVLA and producing the correct documentation (assuming that it had a civvi plate), to do so would be fraud in my opinion
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Postby Bombhead365 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:36 pm

I agree with all the above comments.

The press have been informed.

Citizens advice are on the list for tomorrow.

I do have the V5 and have it sorn all in my name and my current address.

I had permission to leave it there until time I was able to organise transport.

They did send me a letter asking for it to be removed within 14 days. As a result I contacted them, explained my circumstances and it was agreed it could be left there for longer enabling me to sort things out.

Then upon my return to the country I find it has vanished.

The director of the museum is a shady character and does some interesting deals so to speak. But he's a slippery little man who knows how to cover his tracks very well.

So regards a company not taking a vehicle or it not being scrapped without the paperwork. I wouldn't hold my breath. Stranger things have happened. He has some very low people in very low places.

The scrap company he told me he scrapped it with are going to be contacted tomorrow also.
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Postby GrumpyB formerly FULLTILT » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:27 pm

PM sent , info. :wink:

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Postby Bombhead365 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:51 pm

@ GrumpyB formerly FULLTILT

It's amazing what you find about this place, or more specifically it's directors etc when you have a little dig around.

Shady indeed.

The big task is now, getting people to listen.

But most importantly getting my landy back and making him pay for his actions, whether legally or financially (compensation).
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Postby mkeating » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:52 am

Well at least things are moving.

Shake more trees... and much harder

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Postby Rangie » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:27 pm

Good, good, keep up the momentum!
This can of worms must be spilled!

Landrover documented and legally stored.
Verbal agreement.
Unauthorised removal.
Illegal disposal without documents.
What name was used to book the collection of the Landie?

Police, Press and pressure, he should not be allowed to get away with this!!

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Postby Bombhead365 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:45 am

Currently investigating the company that scrapped it and names used and all details.

Local press contacted, going to contact the sun also. They like to help us service lads out.

Would make for an interesting headline "museum illegally scraps RAF airmans historic land rover whilst he was deployed in Afghanistan!"
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Postby nickffr » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:20 am

Seems to be heading in the right direction :D

As Martin says " shake the tree harder " and see what falls out !!!

Bad press is the last thing they need

keep us informed

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Postby brinv8 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:59 am

Looking forward to seeing this in the press.
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Postby MankyLR » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:03 pm

A nasty tale indeed.
You may find the Police quite interested as there has been a fair bit of media coverage up here in Yorkshire regaurding metal theft and the receiving scrappies.
Hope you are able to gain some type of satisfaction.
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Postby Adie4666 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:12 pm

Utterly disgusted with what i've read here, made even worse by the fact he knew you were a Servive lad on deployment and knew your circumstances when he scrapped it. Shady indeed :evil: Please keep us updated on the progress of this!
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Postby mkeating » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:44 pm

Bombhead
keep a CONTROLED rate of fire on this.
Have you a contact number for the media ?
Have you an incident number from the police? WE don't need it here but that is the number you tug when speaking to police along with The name of officer dealing.So long as it was insured don't see much of a problem.
Trespass is a Tort civil court, where as theft is Magistrates court unless over £5k. As pointed out a number of offences here.

If its an on going investigation advise the press as you want the guy nicked and a fair trail do'nt want them spoiling that process.
There are two sides to every story let his be heard, best let him cut his own throat.

You can always complain LATER to the press if you are not happy with the out come.

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Postby LarryH57 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:39 pm

What is the update on this case?

Any news?
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Postby Bombhead365 » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm

Well the outcome is its gone to the scrap yard for tin can conversion. The police have no interest in it.

Spoke to the local police and they have said its not a matter for them to deal with. Don't really understand how they've come to that conclusion. I have spoken to a number of different departments within the cop shop and all give the same answer.

I've spoken to the dvla about the matter of which they have said its nothing to do with them either.

Sconce then after trying to explain to them the situation and asking how I can be removed from the system as the keeper of the vehicle I recieved a fine for failure to SORN whilst I was in afghan.

Sadly they failed to send me the usual online reminder, which unfortunately ruled out my only means of communication. I had been sent a letter instead reminding me to my home address. Something I didn't see until 4 months later along with a notice of a £80 fine.

I'm currently I talks with the dvla again sorting it all out. Along with asking them to explain to me how I can SORN a vehicle that doesn't exist. Also to officially explain to me how to fill in the required paperwork to prove I no longer have the vehicle.

My paperwork is now in the post to them. Just the fine to sort out.

As for the matter with the museum. They refuse to speak to me. They sent me a cheque of £70 as 'compensation' and have turned their back on the matter.

I've also spoken to the press about the matter and they are not interested. They seem more interested in reporting the museum director as the embasador of York in tourism or something like that.

So all that can be said is I'm doing my nest to control my immense armourers rage, which has been topped up since coming back from afghan. Of which makes me even less tolerable to incompetent weasels of society.

But rant/update over.


My energy will and is being diverted to sorting out the new jointly owned series 3 that's support The Buccaneer Aviation Group in Leicester.
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Postby GrumpyB formerly FULLTILT » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:49 pm

IIRC , then the "Small Claims Court" will apply , (as County Court (very expensive) - BUT , the valuation / loss will be under the £2000).

You can do this on-line with Yourk County Court or Combined court - whatever. Check the small print , as I may not be up to date.
Fee £30

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Postby GrumpyB formerly FULLTILT » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:50 pm

GrumpyB formerly FULLTILT wrote:IIRC , then the "Small Claims Court" will apply , (as County Court (very expensive) - BUT , the valuation / loss will be under the £2000).

You can do this on-line with York County Court or Combined court - whatever. Check all the small print , as I may not be up to date / speed.
Fee £30

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Postby GrumpyB formerly FULLTILT » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:56 pm

Looks like it is now a £5000 limit to claim.

http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/proced ... old/part27


I would have to swot up , almost certain it is suitable for your case.

For small £fee , & presenting your case on-line , then you could give them a unbeleivable amount of aggro , win or loose , worth the ££fee :)
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Re: Ex RAF 109 Seres 3 35-AJ-20 MISSING!

Postby LarryH57 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:29 pm

Have you tried any of those no win no fee solicitors - not that you may get back much but to teach people responsible a lesson?
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