How to find green lanes

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How to find green lanes

Postby SAS dinkie » Thu May 05, 2011 7:26 am

Anyone want to give us a brief guide of how to locate greenlanes in our areas, and how to go about checking that its legal to drive them?

I keep seeing bridle ways around here, with tyre marks entering them, but have no idea if they can be driven?
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Postby GrumpyB formerly FULLTILT » Thu May 05, 2011 8:04 am

Make appointment to visit the "County Hall" appointed ROW (rights of way) officer, explaining the area you are interested in.
They will pull out the "Definitave Map" - this will be a O.S. map - highlighted with classifications - they will mark up if the road is with public vehicular rights.

Follow up your visit with a letter asking for written confirmation of public vehicular rights as viewed - from A to B to C etc.

Depends county to county - some are not too willing to maintain their statutory obligations - the "DEFINATIVE MAP" may be "definative map".
IMHO - more to do with local politics. 30 years ago - some National Parks Authorities actually published booklets and listed all the "green lanes" with vehicular rights. The Yorkshire Dales NP - did this along with surveys carried out by university students , detailing extent of damage and identification of type of vehicle doing the damage (tyre evidence , farm vehicles & forestry being the worst offenders) - not so now AFAIK , to good the documentary evidence they were providing & too many 4x4 nutters

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Legal Greenlanes

Postby Mike O'Connor » Wed May 25, 2011 11:19 am

In the main Fulltilt is right and sometimes that can be a fag and some Rights of way departments aren't co-operative. Some on the other hand have an interactive map on their county site (usually in highways or RoW Dept) that can give you answers. Some counties i.e. Powys have a Police Patrol but that's handy 'cos if you behave (Follow Greenlane Code) and you come across them you can always ask nicely for advice, they can hardly refuse!

In general NO you can't drive Bridleways the tyre marks are probably farmers or more likely agricultural contractors who do no end of damage. The ones you can drive are Byways or ORPAS Other Routes with Public Access known in the past as UCRs Unadopted County Roads. DO NOT use RUPPS Roads Used as Public Paths these have been legislated away by the last government (sod rights that have been in use since Roman Times) though I have seen Motorbike riders regularly using them which they shouldn't and I'm sure there are 4x4 idiots who use them when they shouldn't.

Watch out for TROs Traffic Regulation Orders which would be notices fixed to either end of a route and also road type signs circular bouded in red with a cross red stripe through a car or bike which means it's permanently restricted. Some counties Northants and Bedfordshire included do a lot of seaonal closures (winter) and some have volunantry restrictions i.e. Stanage Edge with a one way agreement, and Dorset/Wiltshire border on the Ox Drove. Lot of good lanes in Wiltshire and Dorset by the way but you need to ask for advice on some of those.!

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Postby Martin109 » Thu May 26, 2011 6:40 pm

Not wishing to spoil anyone's fun in any way but I think this would be worth a read:

http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/news/Milita ... ticle.html

They are getting rather stroppy about this (and rightly so IMHO) so it's worth bearing in mind if you don't want to lose your pride and joy.

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Postby Mike O'Connor » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:09 pm

Note that bit on the Salisbury Plain area comments that said drivers going off-road! Just stick to the tracks there are enough signs pointing out unexploded munitions etc. The tracks are clear though they maybe confusing. You are allowed in a number of cases to use the military roads, but for range areas there are numbers to phone (I'd have to look them up myself) and they can tell you whether the areas are open or not. Just don't drive off the roads!

I imagine the ranges in S Wales are the same though I've yet to find a number for them, any help appreciated! Oh yes and if you see the Miltary or range Police stop and ask, I've done it and they've been helpful.
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Postby SillyBilly » Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:35 pm

I have my FFR90 and a Mog 404 and nowhere to drive them. I can either join a club which can cost up to about £40 a day (not including fuel). The majority of clubs round here are all about trials which I find quite boring. Makes me wonder if they're worth keeping if you can't use them in the manor for which they were built. Maybe should get myself a bubble gum pink Fiat 500 NOT.
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Postby owenmi01 » Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:32 pm

I must admit i too would dearly like to do some greenlaning but i am new to the area and dont know my way around particularly....and to be fair dont know many people in the area either..especially 1's with military vehicles....

My FFR90 is not geared up heavily for your traditional 4X4 pay & play sites and to be fair this doesnt really interest me either...

but, the thought of being up in the hills driving down a farm track or over the top of a moor or through a forest is far more interesting....

Anyone know of any clubs that specialise in greenlaning rather than competitive 4x4 or trialing...perhaps if anyone knows of any they can post them here for people to explore further if they want too...

Unless anyone on here is willing to organise anything in there local area to educate us newbies ???? i for 1 would welcome the chance to explore my local area further.

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Postby chunkster » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:45 pm

if anyone is within easy distance of salisbury plain i would be more than happy to lead you around
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Postby owenmi01 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:33 am

excellent Chunkster....i am sure someone will take you up on the offer....too far away for me however..

Anyone else in other areas willing to pass on there expert knowledge..

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Postby Mike O'Connor » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:47 am

If you're stuck without a club or a group try Mudclub on the internet. It's a national thing with loads of people all over the place. There'll be somebody round you're way who'll know. Mostly it's greenlaners and it was started and is adminstered by two local guys in Northamptonshire. I see them fairly often so can call them if you have a problem.

Best of all it's a free club, just join on and chat, you should find some locals.
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Postby owenmi01 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:05 pm

Hi Mike,

Sounds like a plan to me...definitely interested in the greenlaning...its what land rovers are made for i reckon even Military ones.....

will let you know how i get on for the North West folk here....

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Postby owenmi01 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:12 pm

well i joined let see how i go on...

Also looking to go along to the MVT Manchester meeting for the first ever time tomorrow...anyone here going so i can say hello??

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Postby GrumpyB formerly FULLTILT » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:13 pm

http://www.way-finder.org.uk/

You need to sign in first , take a bit of time learning to use the site facilities

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Postby maverrickd » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:24 pm

great link just what i was looking for
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Postby mkeating » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:37 pm

Hi Guys if thinking of suffolk check out
http://www.suffolk.gov.uk/Environment/P ... Orders.htm
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Postby minivin » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:04 pm

For Hampshire, this link is useful for the definitive map and access to TRO's:

http://whereilive.hants.gov.uk/rightsof ... form1.aspx


For Wiltshire, TRO's:

http://php.wiltshire.gov.uk/row/closures/

Definitive map:

http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/communityan ... apping.htm

Oh, and the SPTA news letter, so you can find out when certain portions are closed:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neilskelto ... /spta.html


A lot of people like to slate WCC, however they have been upgrading a lot of RB's too BOAT status recently, with signage of lanes being put up to help mark the lanes. It's just great living on the edge of the SPTA 8)
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Postby mkeating » Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:18 pm

Sign posting by Wilts CC :shock:
Sure you don't mean this.

http://www.treadlightly-uk.org/index.ph ... 4&Itemid=2
YOUR LOCAL TL group need YOU. :wink:
If you don't have Dales number sure I can get it,
be good to get another TL member on the Forum.
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Postby minivin » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:21 am

Ok, "supplied by WCC", as was the machine to drill the post holes?
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Postby mkeating » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:37 pm

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